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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Inconsistent census numbers Reply with quote

Think there might be a small hiccup here; yesterday I saw EU-Arathor was on the most wanted list with zero submissions on both sides, so I made a character on alliance and did a couple of censuses on it... today it has 356 submissions listed on alliance side. Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some nub just updated their data that they have been saving for 24728934 days =P
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A likely scenario =)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DM. wrote:
Some nub just updated their data that they have been saving for 24728934 days =P
sounds like an admission of guilt!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I thought that '356 submissions' meant '356 uploads of a CensusPlus.lua file'.

If someone can hoard their submissions and then upload a huge file and have it count as more than one submission, what is the 356 actually counting? The number of times they ran C+ during that period? Something else entirely?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A submission is counted as one run of Censusplus ingame, so if it runs 10 times while you play, that's counted as 10 censuses run on that server. Hence my server usually showing as having around a thousand censuses run on alliance side, as I play a lot and have Censusplus running every 10 minutes Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I update every day from the Alliance site from EU-Arathor.
So zero submissions can't be true Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, must've been some hiccup when I saw it at zero then Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looking at the submissions, it appears there must have been a hiccup somewhere because there has been a steady stream of Alliance entries for that server =/

Sorry Bal!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe ah well, an extra couple of censuses never does any harm Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, definitely something up here: EU-Vek'nilash is currently showing as zero entries on both sides, when I know I've run some Alliance censuses there in the last few days. Same for EU-Deathwing.

I'm observing that whenever a server shows as zero entries, it shows as that on both sides (currently three EU servers show as having zero entries, all three show as zero on both Horde and Alliance - when I looked the other day it was a different four servers also showing zero for both sides); perhaps there's some hiccup where if a server has zero on one side, it thinks both sides have zero?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely something going on here. I'll look into it in the morning, but yes, both of those realms have valid times. In Deathwing's case, they have about 200 alliance entries even...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still getting this one; all the servers with zero submissions on one side are showing on the most wanted list for both sides, also the numbers of submissions on the server page are missing on those servers.

Luckily you can use the relative populations to figure out which side really needs a census, as the side with 100% population is probably alright, but it still makes the most wanted list look even worse than it really is (WTB more mass censusers in EU please, even with 2 accounts I'm not making any real inroads Wink)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, bit of a slow day at work so I dug into it and found the problem. I have put in a fix so let me know if you see any funkiness!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good, thanks! Smile

Although you seem to have also unearthed a whole bunch more with zero entries, the list has almost doubled in size! I'm really not sure http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=198 can have gone two years without any submissions, maybe some new hiccup there? Wink

Also looking at the new zero submission servers http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=357 says its last submissions were very recently, but has no characters at all listed... could be some others like that as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first one is a rename issue...

Here is the correct spelling. I need to eliminate that somehow.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=525

As for the Cho'gall example. the problem here is something I should look into as well. If someone supplies data that has ANY information for a server, even if it is very old, it will still mark it as an update. But since it is possible the data does not contain any current data, it does not add any entries.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, that makes sense... how come a load just newly appeared on the most wanted list without having been there before though? I'm sure Cho'gall wasn't, or if it was, only one side, not both.

I'm wondering if there's some more rename issues btw as I can't find servers named either Talnir or Pr?ximamente on my server list, but both are newly appeared on most wanted... there's a Talnivarr, but nothing even remotely close to the other one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the change I made forces it to pick up every server in my server list, which admittedly has some servers that I don't think were ever put into production. I'll see what I can do to get those filtered out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I did more updating. Should look better now =)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks more like it, yeah... still too many 0s for my liking though; way more than I have spare character slots for Wink
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